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The Truth about Anti-SasuNaru by =izzyisozaki:iconizzyisozaki:





The Truth about Anti-SasuNaru

This had to be done. I already wrote about downfalls of the SasuNaru fandom; but a defence is even more necessary.

So I’ll never ever have to reply anti-SasuNaru fanbrat comments again. I’ll just link this and write:

Deal with it.

The hypocrisy of the “Anti-SasuNaru” is appalling.

Most assume crack Het pairings are more justified and probable just for the fact Naruto’s a “shounen manga” (as if there have never been homosexual pairings in them before).

Excuse me, but NaruSasu is heavily implied. Not to mention the countless homoerotic undertones this manga contains. If you choose to not acknowledge it because of your beliefs or cos your shounen gospel tells you not to, then that’s YOUR business.

I’m tired of having to respond to flames and inconsiderate crits as if I was defending some sort of religion.

Fandom is not a religion.

But it is still a belief. And I am free to interpret a manga however I wish, KTHX.

I interpret using my reasoning and experience; but there isn’t one thing psychology can’t back me up for; NarutoXSasuke happens to be pure literary reasoning. I don’t care what you think about homosexuality or shounen manga.

I’ve asked some die-hard SasuSaku fans if they honestly thought SasuNaru was OOC.

And they said no.

You can reasonably say that the pairing is not canon, but this doesn’t give you the right to spam all over a fan’s page because they give justified evidence for NaruSasu or to tell them they are being illogical. That is just…a paradox in itself.

Not to mention shallow, bigoted, and overtly rude.

I don’t go giving pathetic arguments on your OTP, I actually reflect on its possibilities.

Learn to do the same.

I shouldn’t even have to write this in the first place the shit load of support NaruSasu has.

The fans have the right to believe in it as much as they like.

We don’t only see it for our hormones, or that wouldn’t explain the countless heterosexual males I know that acknowledge this pairing. And not to mention even most Het shippers go for what pairing they think is the “most kawaii”.

It’s so disgusting how the Het fandom victimizes itself and acts like Yaoi is an offence to their virginal cause.

Always saying “Stupid Yaoi fangirls” while they flame and are tards just as much. Maybe more, being divinely supported by their canon and shounen BS.

“Yaoi is a genre, not a label” –quote from :devquill-alchemist:-

So take your limited Anti-Yaoi reasoning to the fantards that ferment it, not to moderate fans that just happen to ship a homosexual pairing you just don’t agree with O_o
I hate how those popular deviants like –insert you-know-who here- boast about their hate for Yaoi/Yuri as if it defied “their” sacred heteros-only manga.
Why don’t you add that you hate “Hentai” too, if you aren’t homophobic like your stamp claims. Unfortunately Yaoi also means boyXboy relationships, so if you say you hate Yaoi, you are in fact saying you hate homosexual relationships. You are free to, but do you think that’s tolerant of you to brag about out loud? In other words, if I see potential for a homosexual relationship in a manga, why should you deny my right in believing in it just cos it’s “shounen (for boys)”? I thought you were a girl, shouldn’t you not be making claims in the first place? Shounen manga biases are ridiculous, cos apparently more girls read Shounen Jump than guys do, and the world doesn’t consist of people 100% heterosexual. Bisexuality is more real than you think, and you’re just being limited. And slightly…hypocritical, many anti-Yaoi enthusiasts being marysues and fandom bashers.

Therefore we don’t need you to tell us what’s already obvious; many NarutoXSasuke shippers happen to be equipped with a brain (especially compared to the other Naruto pairing fandoms imo)

I dare you to tell me SasuNaru makes no sense by the end of this. Cos apparently making an entire manifesto crammed with visual evidence isn’t enough to be left in peace or not being humiliated.

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For anyone that thinks Sasuke and Naruto hate each other:
First, let me laugh.
Okay, now here are the quotes (some abbreviated and more precisely translated) even if I’m always amazed when I have to argue against something so dead obviously FALSE:

*Note how many times Naruto goes KYUUBI over Sasuke.*

Sasuke sacrifices himself to save Naruto from Haku
Sasuke: What’s that look, usuratonkachi?
Naruto: Why did you protect me?? I never asked for your help!!
Sasuke: How am I supposed to know…  *flashbacks of all the things Naruto did towards him, even things like just looking at him*. My body moved on its own.

Naruto to Haku: Even I hated him… but I won’t forgive you. Consider yourself dead. *Kyuubi powers come out for the first time*

Haku to Naruto: He [Sasuke] didn’t even flinch when I counter-attacked to protect a precious friend to him. He was an admirable ninja.

Naruto to Sasuke (during Chuunin exams when Orochimaru pays Sasuke his first visit): Such a coward isn’t the Sasuke I know! *Naruto going Kyuubi some more*

Sasuke’s thoughts: Naruto has thunderous power. I’m inferior. (…) I know from seeing him close up. (…) How can I grow that sort of power? (I write this one cos it shows that during the Valley of the End Sasuke sees Naruto's strength to be more than just Kyuubi)

Kakashi to Jiraiya: Naruto wants only to be acknowledged by Sasuke. He’s been going after him since the days of the Academy.

Naruto to Kimimaro: Is that what Sasuke’s for [in reference to Orochimaru’s soul-container plan]?? (…) I won’t let you do such a thing! (…) I won’t let you take Sasuke!! *More furious rants and Naruto goes Kyuubi once again*

Valley of the End

Naruto's thoughts: I don't know why but ...I don't want....Orochimaru to take you away.

Sasuke to Naruto: I acknowledge it- you are strong. You know the same loneliness that I do. That kind of pain makes a person strong. That's why...by breaking our bond, I'll become stronger.

Sasuke: Why do you push so far for me?
Naruto: Cos you are that bond I’ve searched for so long. *Major Kyuubiness in the in order to stop Sasuke from leaving (if Naruto just wanted Sakura to himself he could have just let Sasuke leave without trying so much O_o Also he was determined to get Sasuke back even before the promise people!)*

Naruto to Sai: To save that friend, I’ll do anything, even collaborate with you.

Sai: Why do go so far for Sasuke?
Naruto: Way back when, I used to hate Sasuke… but once I got used to being with him I realized he’s really fun to be around… he’s…
He’s the person that, more than anyone else, accepted me and my existence
Sasuke is my friend, and is the bond I waited so long to receive… so that’s why…

Sai: Bonds…
Still, that’s not much of a reason… not if it means facing someone like Orochimaru…

Naruto: If my arms get ripped, I’ll just kick him to death…If my legs get ripped off, I’ll just bite him to death  (…) Even if it means getting torn to pieces, I’m going to take Sasuke back from Orochimaru no matter what!
[Did anyone see “for Sakura” anywhere O_o?]

Kakashi to Sasuke: You, [who are] always in front of his eyes, are making Naruto get stronger and stronger.

Naruto: I'm happy that I'm compatible with Sasuke.
Yamato: Yes, wind is stronger than thunder.
Naruto: No, I mean, wind is the only element that's able to save fire and make it burn higher than before.

Naruto to Orochimaru: Don’t speak as if Sasuke was something yours. *Kyuubi outleashed big-time*

If all that doesn’t crock an eyebrow then I don’t know what does. I don’t feel like collecting every single quote for you, so go reread the manga if you have time to flame people for believing in this pairing.

***Disclaimer: The following is not aimed at the fans or the pairings in themselves, only towards the noobs and flamers who think they have authorial omniscience.***

For NaruHinatards:
- If you are still going on about how Hinata is better for Naruto cos she shows interest in him, you should note that:
Ø love isn’t given on a deserved basis
Ø NaruHina may not happen either so you can keep watching your fillers
Ø Naruto hasn’t shown squat to her as he has towards Sakura in a romantic sense yet
Ø I have nothing against NaruHina, but you should be realistic about Naruto’s feelings too and not tell me a pairing like SasuHina makes sense in comparison just because it happens to be heterosexual.
Ø Sasuke has shown interest in Naruto, even if not explicitly romantic. Let the manga have the last word. I think Sasuke’s feelings are more and I have plenty of reasons to believe so. So get off my back >__> you’re heavy.
Next.

For SasuSakutards:
- If you are still going on about how much Naruto and Sasuke hate each other…
Ø Look who the helk is talking. Out of all pairings, you shouldn’t be the one saying this. It’s humiliates SasuSaku, which is, so far,  just one-sided love and mutual care. Not to mention how Sasuke shunned her romantic attention. Keep dreaming until you see Sasuke do something actually significant towards her. “Thank you” isn’t enough.
Ø Who did Sasuke not kill? Naruto.
Why? “Cos he didn’t want to do what Itachi said”
WRONG. Cos he didn’t have the heart to kill his best friend.
Not to mention he almost killed Sakura in Shippuden, hypocrites.
- If you are still going on about how NarutoXSasuke fans are sick girls that cannot control their hormones…
Ø Think again rabid Sasuke fangirl. As if you didn’t envision yourself as Sakura. You wouldn’t be shipping in the first place if you didn’t identify with one of the characters.
- If you still are going on about how Sasuke isn't gay and needs to REVIVE clan...
Ø RESTORING CLAN =/= UCHIHA BABIES. If he was so interested in that he could have treated her better.
Ø Wow. Now Sakura is the Uchiha baby machine. He's going to choose her for sure cos he's a marysue that gets what he wants. And she'll want him.
That's DEEP and SENSIBLE.
Ø You don't have a dominant homosexual tendency to love someone of the same-sex O.o
Ø "Shounen" doesn't prove Sasuke isn't gay. Try looking at the behavior and not just the manga's label.

For NaruSakutards:
- The manga is going in the direction of NaruSaku and NaruSasu is just friendship - it’s a shounen manga.
Ø Prove it’s not more than friendship you shounen-worshipping know-it-alls. I’m fed up of your ZOMG NARUTO ONLY LURVES SAKURA - MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE!!11one cos honestly I think Naruto doesn’t have very strong “romantic” feeling towards her; he has renounced on them easily or doesn’t take his fling for her that seriously. It definitely could be platonic or not romantically deep. He could fall for Hinata before you know it. Be careful, or at least respectful, when treating the other fandoms; NaruSaku isn’t written in stone and Sakura’s (or even Naruto’s) feelings for Sasuke will not evaporate into thin air.
Ø Naruto and Sasuke do not interact like Shikamaru and Choji (best friends) do. They’re so much more and you snob it just cos it doesn’t emotionally reach you in that way. If you honestly think Naruto understands his feelings for Sasuke fully you're delusional. He's never had a brother or experienced a close relationship to compare his feelings with. Stop treating NaruSasu like a hormonal and over-rated fandom when yours is just as much.

For SasuHinatards/crackHetpairingtards:
I have nothing to explain to you if you can’t see that Sasuke has cared only about Team 7 before going for Itachi. He will never love anyone who isn’t them if this manga has any sense or coherency. Same thing for Hinata. Get over it and don’t vent your frustration on me; it just makes me want to despise your crack pairing even more.

For Sasuke-haters:
Ok. We all know Sasuke has been a major douche bag. But Team 7 still loves him and he was a good person. No one’s perfect. All I mean is that he is wrong but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a chance. He’s an emotional wreck and still hasn’t managed killing anyone despite the “intentions”. He undeniably would have regretted it (?) at least according to Kyuubi. And I think NaruSasuSaku and maybe even NaruHina fans have good reasons to hope (that is, not to just “accept” NaruSaku).

Conclusion:

You shouldn’t “generalize” or stereotype a person as soon as I see their deviation of –blank– pairing..

Don’t bash pairings with slogans or weak arguments.

When you don’t like a pairing, RESPECT those who do.

Keep your so-called “non-homophobic” reasoning for real BS pairings if you can’t keep those feelings to yourself or express them in a balanced manner

There’s a word called tolerance. And it’s obvious it should be used with race, ethnicity, nationality, color, and sexual orientation. That’s just what rationality is. That’s why I think ANTI (at least when wrongly exercised) in any of those listed disrespectful and wrong. Especially in ART. Morals won’t all get along, but I think tolerance is something that absolutely cannot be disregarded considering nothing is “sure”, especially since we’re not all the same, in this world.

Why can’t we get along a bit more? Fandom may be SRS BSNS, but bashing and unfairly stereotyping each other like a mad subspecies of Homo sapiens is pathetic.

Please don’t give me any “Oh butt-hurt much?”
Cos I know I’m BUTT-HURT from the following:

- being flamed for loving/shipping ONE Yaoi pairing that actually makes sense >.>
- of seeing NaruSasu being treated like a “BS pairing” and being humiliated in almost every bad typical Anti-Yaoi stamp around; thus wide-spread intolerance that has nothing to do with just rabid Yaoi fantard girls nagging on your door-step with their slash therefore pissing you off and causing you to react (and I am around them ALL the time, but I don’t have brain traumas)
- seeing popular deviants humiliating others in their art to get stereotypical and intolerant points across, claiming they’re anti-ANTI-clubs but bash other fandoms/genres like no tomorrow
- of artistic intolerance :B

STOP ACTING LIKE YOU'RE MORALLY SUPERIOR TO THOSE WHO SHIP YAOI PAIRINGS.

Cos not all are Yaoi heterophobic "kawaii" fantards >__>
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:iconkillitwithfire::iconfantardexpressplz::iconthe-n00b::iconkillthatwithfire:

I'm actually in a good mood :dance: I just wanted to get this off my chest once and for all :XD:. Been flamed a lot by putting up the edit on my NaruSasu manifesto :iconnotimpressedplz:

If you have any kind suggests on how I can improve it, let me know. I didn't get to make it a good as I wished :P.

I respect all the pairings here, it's only addressed to fantards and noobs. I wrote one against my own fandom as well.

Also, just because I don't believe in your pairings, doesn't mean I get on your back cos you don't believe in mine. WTF. The whole point of this essay is to show how we can't be sure about what we ship ಠ_ಠ.

And I'll even prove it by linking this: [link]

The sad thing is...fantards probably won't even bother to read this, and if they do, they probably won't acknowledge it in any way. That's what makes them fanTARDS. I've read the (rude) comments on your art as well as others and the whole time I was thinking to myself, “Ok, first of all…Can they respond without using chatspeak and tard-language? Really. I think all the other responses at least looked like they were written by a literate/intelligent person And nothing they’re saying makes sense…..at all. Really, how can I respect them and the pairing they ship, when they don’t give others respect themselves?” And come on...even if they absolutely cannot stand a pairing is it THAT FREAKING DIFFICULT to push the back button OR not even look at the art of said pairing in the first place??? I mean, I'll see the occasional deviation of a random pairing that I do not like at all, but I don't click on it just so I can flame the artist. Sometimes I'll click on it to admire the art, actually. ….I just….really can’t stand people who do stuff like that. I agree with you on this 1,000,000% and moar, and to all fantards/flamers/yaoi-haters that bother you or anyone else: Go find something else to do and Leave. Us. Alone.
*breathe* Sorry for the rant there, but I just can’t stand some people, you know?
~DarcyOfTheDark

AMEN :bucktooth:

So before saying I do the same type of bashing try to understand my state of mind.
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Lolz XD I only bash NejiTen -pokes my name-

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I am the proud owner of a mary-sue, canon-loving, neko ear-baring OC~ 8DD Lol.
Please take a look at my gallery~ >u<
*sniff* first DUDE DO NOT MAKE ME REMEMBER WHEN SASUKE LEFT!!!!!!! GOD!!...TO SAD!! okay next i love u for doing this!!! u put the evendence right infront of there faces! lol. and yes i am lauging with u at anti-yaoi people! ha ha ha ha ha!!! he eh
I stand behind you on this^^
Anti is fine. It's when you shove it in the fans faces treating them like retards.

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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. How could I forget? Sasuke says all he needs to say by not saying anything at all in regards to Sakura. So naturally that means everything when we take the pairing perspective on this. ~jin-desu
Thanks so much :):heart:

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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. How could I forget? Sasuke says all he needs to say by not saying anything at all in regards to Sakura. So naturally that means everything when we take the pairing perspective on this. ~jin-desu
The truth is in front of everyones eyes
:hug: x over 9000

I love SasuHina, like I love KankuTen, but who am I to preach it's canon-ness?
There's a huge difference between liking a crack pairing, and preaching a crack pairing.
I, and all crack shippers, should know very well that Kishimoto isn't going to take his time out to make Sasuke and Hinata, or Naruto and Anko interact romantically.

I totally think it's outright wrong to bash someone who has different views than someone.
As Megz oh so rightfully says...
"Hate the fandom, not the pairing."
(My one exception is ShikaIno on this one. I just vehemently loathe the idea of ShikaIno)

Like, I'm in the "Anti-NaruHina/SasuSaku" club, but I would never, ever, EVER go and flame a NaruHina/SasuSaku artist.
That is just beneath me.

I think I should write something like this to the ATLA fandom ><
They need to learn about tolerance, and how not to bash.

And finally, Naruto and Sasuke, unlike Naruto and Hinata, Sakura and Sasuke, and Sakura and Naruto, have a deep, profound relationship that actually touches the heart, and makes you tear up a little.
Even if you /are/ a yaoi-hater, or "anti-yaoi" person should take that into account.

and i want to know which artist your talking about, because im just /that/ nosy. note me or something D<

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ChuckxBlair ♥ LuffyxNami ♥ BarneyxRobin ♥ SaturnxJupiter
As usual, you make a great argument. :D

On a side note, a known basher was on my page the other day; but didn't bash me. :?
He/she/it only commented on my webcam, saying it was cool. :|
Izzy, am I impervious to bashers? O_o;

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CLUBS, DATTEBAYO:
SasuXNaru-Club: I own this club!
Bishie Stalker Club: I stalk Naruto!
Bra-Vo. Just, bravo my friend. You put down everything the bashers/flamers try to use when they wanna start up some drama-llama on us.

Hahahaha....I still can't believe people ship SasuHina though. Didn't they only see each other at the begining of the Chuunin Exams? XD; Whatever...I don't really mind.

Ya know what? Next time I see a flamer/basher, I'm linking them this to them. ^^ They can kiss my beautiful ass and loving every second of it. HOO-HAA!

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:worship: Your going-out-of-the-way to prove SasuNaru never fails to amaze me. I can't think of anything to say that I haven't said before, so...

:worship:

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